Originally Posted by MinRest

Captains didn't get downgraded at NJA, but NJA furloughed the highest percentage of pilots out of anyone, including the airlines in 2008. Let's not pretend that NJA is invincible.

Everyone that was hired in 2015 was promised mass growth and a huge reduction of upgrade times. Fast forward to 2022 (just about) and upgrade times are still sitting about thee 10 year mark. The few from my new hire class that stayed, are still looking at anther 2-3 years to upgrade. It is what it is but I absolutely remember hearing the same song and dance about how "now is the time" and "you are in front of the wave" etc etc. Major airlines don't pull that stuff.

You speak about an airline industry that doesn't exist anymore. Will the industry see downgrades and furloughs during rough times? Probably, but a "continued downward spiral" of the airline industry isn't happening, no matter how much the furloughed airline pilots of yesteryear who found themselves at NJA want it to happen. '

NJA is a great place for the right person, but the need to crap on the airline industry to justify NJA is silly.