Originally Posted by
MinRest
Captains didn't get downgraded at NJA, but NJA furloughed the highest percentage of pilots out of anyone, including the airlines in 2008. Let's not pretend that NJA is invincible.
Everyone that was hired in 2015 was promised mass growth and a huge reduction of upgrade times. Fast forward to 2022 (just about) and upgrade times are still sitting about thee 10 year mark. The few from my new hire class that stayed, are still looking at anther 2-3 years to upgrade. It is what it is but I absolutely remember hearing the same song and dance about how "now is the time" and "you are in front of the wave" etc etc. Major airlines don't pull that stuff.
You speak about an airline industry that doesn't exist anymore. Will the industry see downgrades and furloughs during rough times? Probably, but a "continued downward spiral" of the airline industry isn't happening, no matter how much the furloughed airline pilots of yesteryear who found themselves at NJA want it to happen. '
NJA is a great place for the right person, but the need to crap on the airline industry to justify NJA is silly.
We don’t have any 10 year upgrades because it’s not 2025. No one knows yet when the 2015 class will upgrade. NJA still has to get through the 2008 seniority group first. NJA did not hire from Dec 2008-Dec 2014. I don’t count the one person in 2009 since he’s in management.
We won’t know actual upgrade times post furlough because we are not there yet. But they will reduce automatically by 6 years when we get to the 2015 new hires.
You got here in 2015 when we were under a terrible CEO whom turned everyone against each other and was eventually fired. You never stuck it out to see the great company we have evolved to.
You left for greener grass or so you thought, yet keep coming back to this one. You sat at home for a year while the taxpayers paid for your at home staycation, yet still feel the need to come back here. You’ve finally upgraded at a part 121 airline, yet still come back here.
You don’t seem to be happy at the greener grass based on your other posts over there. Will you ever be happy? The grass is only greener where you water it. Find your grass to water. It’s clearly not here.
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