Originally Posted by ItsJustUsLeft

Not here to debate either. We can change it. I can't and you cant do it alone. This is my point. However, logbooks do not take slots and it would be very foolish if and when logbooks do take someone's slot. I know this from experience. We were all low time pilots once before. I have been canned for someone with more time than me after I was trained. A logbook guy replaced me. A month later the logbook guy was filing a law suit against the company for getting hurt on his own stupidity not knowing how a hanger door worked.

The question is, how do we bring that quality of life down to where it is shared. 10-12 days per month and financially comfortable and stable when we agree to compete with each other over "legal" log book entries. Not every one can make hundreds of thousands of dollars it's impossible and most of us can agree we don't have to live beyond our financial means in greed. Every time we sit in the right or left seat we gain experience. Someone says you can't count that as experience legally and we comply. It doesn't have to be like this. If we show up to class to learn we should get credit for it regardless of what seat we sit in. What is the goal to reach from sitting in class and counting? APT, because why go beyond? for slong measurement? It's absolutely silly.