Originally Posted by
velosnow
I would dig this, as it would hopefully prevent atrocities in the creation of pairings. Other week had an 8+ hour block day (domestic) that was proceeded by a circadian shift w/ loooong FDP, which was proceeded by a red eye/day layover. We both planned to call in fatigued, but by the grace of FSM we got re-routed into a single leg and done.
Sadly, there are many that think it's ok for the company to schedule like this who simply say, "just call in fatigued if you're tired." The company is planning on a big percentage of the pilots being "get the mission done" types that will just push through. Even some of our own pilots (ATL-JAX) are OK with this line of thinking. What a completely backwards and unsafe way of operating.
Originally Posted by
Big E 757
Come on, man! I’d love that too, but let’s be realistic. Let’s try to think of ways to increase our pay for the longer days, with the goal of finding something that 1.) Management might agree to, and 2.) something that won’t drastically change rotations in a negative way, but quite possibly make trips more palatable.
A 20% bump in pay for longer days seems reasonable. Let’s say one day of your rotation has 8.0 block and 12.5 hours of duty.
A 20% in pay for 2.5 hours block and 20% for 5.5 hours duty. That would pay 1.6 x hourly rate. That would be an extra $456 at A321 rates.
Now that I did the math, it’s a little on the light side. Maybe 125%. I don’t know. Just trying to think of alternative ways of being rewarded for the harder days.
I like the line of thinking, it's a lot more constructive than "it could be worse." A similar option would be X% increase after X block time per day, but that alone wouldn't help certain fleets out all that much. A combo of stepped up Block/FDP/sit rigs would like work better. A hefty sit rig after 1.5 hours would be a great start. We'd need some 10 pound brains to gonk the numbers to see what makes sense and what would be painful....and of course, see how it looks in carmen.