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Old 01-12-2022 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown
put the newhire bonus on the first year calculations.

The 83 number: the union negotiating committee were trying to figure out what the pay was for a pilot, without pickup, and without drops. So a years worth of soft pay, what is that expressed as an average? Endeavor has a lot of soft pay and pbs is a little wiggly on hours "forced". The company and union for 25 years have worked on that 83 hours a month assumption (assumption off mesaba contract which is where the edv contract came from). If a pilot did what he was assigned, soft pay would drop him/her right about 83 hours average.

Loa 91 was when we really could just hit a few buttons on rainmaker and see about 12 months of the pilots pay. A guy would fight with the union about how there was no way he was averaging 83 hours, so just pop in his name in rainmaker and you could say "well, in the last 12 months you dropped XX hours of pay, if you hadnt dropped that your average would be 85".

The mean pilot was making over 90 hours (if my memory is right). 83 was a provable floor. So when we changed the rentention bonuses into payrates, that was the number we divided by to get those rates to pilots.
This is more or less what I remember from my conversations with DZ when he was on the NC in 2016/2017. I remember a lot of us being really upset because we thought we were going to take pay cuts. Then when the paychecks started coming in we all quietly stopped complaining.
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