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Old 01-24-2022, 08:47 AM
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OpieTaylor
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Originally Posted by OpMidClimax View Post
I guess ill take a swing..

2 training centers for now, but the goal is one and the clt center is just a necessity at the moment.

3 WO... well having 3 was very good when the contacts were negotiated 2011 through 2015 when the contacts were concessionary, "Jets for Jobs" and pitting the three groups between eachother. Today the pilot group costs are very high along with the total operation. I suspect their will be a major shakeup in the AAL regional fleet and WOs. This will probably happen to the other airlines aswell. The economics of contract FFD flying just isn't going to make a much sense as the companies recover. I suspect there will be consolidation and more blood on the water as MESA, Skywest and others

As far as the envoy and Piedmont ground handling, AAG saves oodles with them. And when a station or a contractor gets too expensive to operate it shuffles Piedmont or Envoy in. Including when a station is envoy with senior members, magically is Piedmont tomorrow and jet stream the next day.

If a flight attendant had done their job for 30 years, great, let them make a decent salary. Yes flight attendants are a huge labor group, but price of labor is going to continue to rise. I belive we are 4.5% on the late yoy numbers..

Going to be tough to lower cost of labor in tight labor market and relatively high inflation.

The regional flying that American relies on is going to be a problem though. Cost to run these operations is getting astronomically higher.

If Ukraine stabilizes, which I'm sure it will eventually.. port's continue to get rid of the backlog.. used car prices come down.. stock market stabilizes.. omicron ends.. fluvid shot comes out along with readily accessible antivals. Travel restrictions ease and much needed business travel returns, which should be quite a bit, travel industry should return well along with AAL, DAL and UAL. Will AAL management succeed in properly pivoting to take advantage... I think so.. will they do it perfectly no.. will their be missed opportunities.. sure.. but with the chips they have I think AAL along with the other 2 or in the best positions to continue business.

Americans pilot group is going to get very young very quick, which reduces overall labor cost with retirees leaving. Over 30 percent of the airline is going be on year 3 pay or less this end of this year.

Doom and gloom does nothing.. everthing works out in the end...
I didn’t mean to sound doom and gloom, and I think AA will keep on keeping on.

I don’t think if they did file for BK it would trigger two others because their is so much fruit they don’t pick for lots of reasons.

A BK won’t just make them lean an mean and able to price cut D and U into a BK.

I am proud their labor groups have been able to prevent outsourcing, and retain wages against their peers at other shops.
I do think one tactic the APA needs to use is to show mgmt how their non pilot labor groups stack against their peers and they do not.

Why should AA pilots be in 3rd place, if they are, if all the other trades aren’t.
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