Originally Posted by
Python1287
The sources for the above are a combination of statements from LCAs and a collection of anecdotes and observations from the bottom of the seniority list, as we all as among the military community for those transitioning to the airlines. I understand it’s not scientific and please don’t dogpile on me. I thought it had been seen as a “common knowledge” problem that Delta is not as attractive as it once was and that we’re seeing that through the numbers. I understand that historically those with multiple CJOs have declined Delta, and that people switch from Delta to other carriers and vice versa in their first year. My point was that to my knowledge it has become much more of a “one way check valve” lately as people tend to switch from here rather than to here.
Again, just what I have heard from LCAs and the military communities. Since it is not robust data, I am willing to concede that it’s potentially not that big of a problem. However, does anybody have any data to the contrary?
I'm not saying it isn't a problem. I'm saying that I don't know that the problem is any more worse now than it ever has been. The company has the historical data and the current data. They know the amount of people who are no-showing and leaving. You can't sit here and say "well no one wants to come here because of these anecdotes" because it doesn't do anything with leverage. You can't just manufacture leverage.
And honestly, I am not surprised Delta isn't nearly as attractive as some of the other carriers but that was a problem we were going to have to deal with in the mid-term anyways. Delta has hired more than its peers over the last decade which means there are a lot more new people here. People want to go to places with the most retirements because that makes HUGE differences over the course of your career, especially those who in the military who are being hired later in their life. My job isn't to make sure everyone wants to come to Delta. I don't really care if NO one wants to come to Delta for whatever reason.
And finally, that isn't how an argument works. You can't throw out an anecdote and say, "prove my anecdote wrong using actual data." And, to be honest, LCA are about as reliable to Betty back at 2L. Hey, remember when they were told back in their secret LCA meeting that 737Maxes were a done deal and that maybe even 787s were on the way?