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Old 01-31-2022 | 11:51 AM
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Alexander12
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Originally Posted by captnate702
Management is telling recurrent that we will be paid top tier rates and retirement? that's the first i've heard of this. Even if we get quality of life, what makes you think management will follow the rules or that an arbitrator will enforce the rules?

I also thought i had thousands in pending grievances but that all disappeared in the sap arbitration that we inexplicably lost. exco said that was a for sure win for us and we lost. After that arbitration, i am convinced that what we need to is top tier rates and retirement ($$$$$) because that is something management and/or an arbitrator cannot take away from us. i don't blame the exco, it should have been no brainer. can we go to court like they did for the pbs award? how could we not win that arbitration is beyond me.

besides, even with the contract taking 3 years, the new contract will get here sooner than your "possible" arbitration award for your thousands in grievances. exco says we are in arbitration every month, but we only hear about three arbitrations for all of 2021 and all three were losers (VFN, segment basis and sap). why do we only three arbitrations in a year? i heard we were in arbitration last week for reserve day pay; i am glad we go to arbitration when we can but how long is it realistically gonna take the union to arbitrate all of these grievances??
All good points and I’m sorry to hear that you lost a lot of money on the SAP ruling, I too lost a ton on that. However, this is a flip from anything else in our history in aviation where the pilot group should fight to get a contract that is 100% on par with our peers who flies the 320/737. The days of Maury saying we can’t afford it are over, Maury can afford to pay us SWA/DAL/AA/UAL rates and rules are over. We are too big to just push aside 3000+ grievances and cram down a **** brick covered in gold contract just to attract pilots. Pay up, come to the table, and staff your 73s.
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