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Old 02-22-2022 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It's not actually empire building, the idea is to maintain a world order that allows for economic freedom and prosperity. We have ideals about democracy and humanity too, but it's the economics that underpin that.

It's a legit debate as to whether we should save all that money, resign as global cop, let Europe and Asia fall to the usual suspects, and go full isolationist. Since we (second only to Australia) have the largest moat in the history of warfare we could be reasonably secure in fortress North America.

But I think you'll get your wish with regard to UK... Uncle Vlad is smart enough to slow boil that problem without a 1939-style overt invasion and that will give western politicians just enough political wiggle room to avoid an armed confrontation.
An armed confrontation? NATO minus the US pretty decisively loses any armed confrontation. They couldn’t take on the Serbian Army without our leading the way and they are no better off today. The US has pretty well demonstrated it can’t even manage a successful withdrawal from Afghanistan. The US military may be more woke and diverse than ever before but they have yet to demonstrate that translates into a more effective fighting force and COVID has clearly demonstrated how risk averse the nation has become.

Fortress America may be the best option.