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Old 03-06-2022 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
Chicken or the egg? Was it Trump, or was it Putin making provocations?

People on the outside will see what they want to see.
The tone of NATO during the Obama era was why do we need to do anything… the US will do it. We don’t need to worry about anything. So I’d say it was more of the former than the latter. The Brits and Canadians excluded. They were quite capable, professional militaries. As were the French, but they were largely absent from the military arm of NATO for decades.