Originally Posted by
Hedley
Those people actually flowed up and then came back. When they went to AA indoc they got a legacy number. In the UAL contract for example, it specifically says that a pilot shall be placed on the seniority list effective on their date of hire with United. There is no way the membership would ever vote to give seniority numbers to pilots who don’t yet work for the company. People flying for a branded regional won’t get a number any more than a military pilot with several more years on their commitment would until their first day of training with the legacy. Something is going to have to change with the current model though. The current attrition rates are unprecedented and unsustainable. In this environment flow isn’t that much of a carrot, but I don’t see the unions going along with issuing seniority until in class at that company? I also can’t imagine anyone waiting to flow if another career company called before then.
You’re making very good and valid points, and honestly I don’t think you’re wrong.
I’m just highlighting that what pilots are ultimately after is accruing seniority on a list they want to be on, and all of the other retention efforts thus far have fallen short.
Would the APA BOD or ALPA MECs at DAL or UAL ever vote in changes that would support such changes? Ultimately they’re going to want to know what’s in it for them, and everything has a price.
Regional pilots have let it be known by their actions that their price is seniority. Legacy management is going to have to figure out how to meet that price while a pilot is operating a CRJ / 175.
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