PCL I will disagree with you on this point. I have belonged to both ALPA and IBT affiliated Airlines and in my humble opinion ALPA is great for Legacy type carriers and the IBT can be a more productive union for smaller carriers like Skybus, Miami Air, etc. I know that the IBT does not offer the same type of perks like ALPA (Loss of License Insurance, Life Insurance, etc) but many if not most of the guys they represent have a hard time affording those products any way. uba727