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Old 03-23-2022 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
SWA doesn't have a fleet like ours, thier network is P2P not hub n' spoke, don't fly redeyes, much lower avg stage, intentionally tight turn times & higher untilization, etc. Much easier to cram more legs per duty than at DL. If we cut & pasted their workrules, we still couldn't replicate their schedules. You know this.

I'd argue since 2018 we haven't seen much increase in value per day, just increased productivity for siimilar pay. NB 3 days are usually ~15:45, 4 days ~21:00. Diference is now the block time is closer ro 15:45, 21:00...soft credit is being eliminated. They've found combining inherent unproductive days with high block days results in no increase in pay, as long as doesn't exceed min trip salaray aka ADG. SWA has ADG 5:39 & at least 4:21 MDG too, as well as a 1 for 1.55 duty rig. Compare that with our 5:15ADG, 0 MDG, & 1 for 2 duty rig. But beware of unintended consequences by ooohhhh . Tell that to the NYC fleet with 1% commutable trips working their balls off. I'm sure SWA can't wait to get rid of their MDG, so they can avg less pay each day. I'm sure their boss will voluntarily build less productive trips, all for the small tradeoff of working a few extra days a month, an equivalant of an extra bid period each year.
I keep seeing these posts about the horrible trips but when I go look at the actual bid packages the trips look pretty good on paper. I realize that trips often fly differently. You state 3 days are normally 15:45 and 4 days 21:00. The bid packages I looked at on the A320 and 73N that was not the case or even close. In fact I posted on here that I was quite surprised at how high the trip values are. What categories are you looking at? I suspect the 717 has lower time just from the nature of the flying but have not looked.
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