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Old 05-07-2022 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It's not as simple as Drawdown/BRAC.

There is a huge retirement wave to age demographics in the US pilot force right now.

Military aircraft tend to be more capable than they used to be, and therefor more costly. Especially tacair... to do X warfighting you need Y logistic aircraft and that hasn't changed much. But you can get by with a lot fewer fighters today, and as always budgets constrain.

The military is a minority producer of airline pilots and will stay that way for the foreseeable future. Our opponents may increase numbers but they can neither develop nor afford the kind of bleeding-edge hardware that would be required to force us dramatically increase our tacair inventory. In fact the DoD is actually now buying updated 4th gen fighters as a cheaper, faster alternative to costly 5/6 gen hardware... 4-1/2 gen hardware is plenty sufficient for many roles in a peer fight.

The reason we have a pilot shortage, fundamentally, is that the industry somehow disregarded the very simple math involving retirement age, mil pilot output, and civilian flight training output. Also maybe blind to the fact that younger generations are not quite as oriented to get away from the farm and have some adventures as the pre-internet demographic. They could very easily have solved this in advance by setting up schools, recruiting suitable and applicants, then paying them to do primary training. The problem with that is long lead-time and they missed the boat.

If push comes to shove you can give somebody 1500 hours in a crew-oriented program (you can do simulated crew ops in a 172) and put them in the right seat of a legacy narrowbody.
I agree. My post was in response to the assertion that the airlines were CAUSING the military pilot shortfall.

There are a variety of things causing the overall shortfall. Just the demise of general aviation for example. CFIs need more people to teach than just other aspiring CFIs (and eventual ATPs) but with 172s going for $400k and a Cirrus going for $750k, general aviation has become an exceedingly expensive hobby.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericteg...of-the-market/

Most trainers are going to burn 7-8 gallons per hour and at $7 a gallon for avgas 1000 hours of time in anything is going to cost $50k in fuel alone. Add in insurance, Mx, tie down/hangar, initial instruction, BFRs, and it starts to add up to real money. And that’s for a simple trainer. Anything multi engine and it starts to get much worse.

Well, not ANYTHING maybe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colomb...2007-05-12.jpg

but damn near anything.
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