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Old 05-16-2022 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 310skying
it does not have to be a long process, even with an airline like allegiant. Management wants it done now and the union wants it done now. The unions stance is the longest this will take is two years from April 2022, and that involves mediation.

The key to dealing with an airline like allegiant that does not follow our current contact are sections 18 and 19. The union and mike urban are very aware of this and that is why 18 and 19 are the sections that have been passed back and forth the most. We have what we want for those sections written and as soon as the company agrees to those a contract will fall into place quickly.

look at United they don’t actually have any of their sections written, it’s an AIP and a TA is expected to be written by lawyers over the next six weeks. If we get 18 and 19 TAd I would expect an AIP for the rest to follow and do the same thing most airlines do. Lock the lawyers in a room for a month and finish the language for the remaining 18 sections under the AIP framework.
Here's the glaring hole in your argument. Yes both sides want it now but they are light years apart on what "it' is. The union wants a full rewrite (or so they say) and Maury wants to dump a truckload of cash on top of current book. I don't see that getting closer any time soon.

Your comment about 18 and 19 being the keystone is ridiculous because as you said they don't care if we win arbitrations and don't follow the contract anyhow. How do you make a company that doesn't care, doesn't follow the contract, ignores arbitrators, and gets away with it keep their promises? You don't.

Not that we've won any arbitrations lately anyhow.
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