Originally Posted by
Gunfighter
It is likely a trial balloon on scope. If it fails miserably, they haven't lost all of the work on the TA and can pull $$ from the open sections to fix scope. Let the pilots decide.
Spoken like a pilot with no WB experience. All NB flying is the same too right? 1 leg/day to an all inclusive is the same as 5/day to the villes and burgs...
Final language matters. Is it 1:1 airplanes or 1:1 pilot jobs (hint: we care about jobs not airframes)? Replacing 2x12 hr pacific flights replaced with 3x8hr Atlantic flights is a big loss for the pilots.
48 WB A hours + 48 WB B hours could be replaced with 24 WB A hours and 48 WB B hours. And yes "We DO think they would do that!" What about the 2 pilot Atlantic out of BOS? I share your optimism that our negotiators worked through the obvious loopholes and wouldn't agree to something this obvious. Our fleet plans of 4 pilot (A350) and 3/4 pilot (A330) airframes would lend to keeping a reasonable balance, especially with the IGW A350s on order.
I agree 100% The exact language matters. If 4 pilot trips can be replaced with 3 pilot trips on a "1:1" basis its an automatic no.
Just an interesting observation, the forum has morphed from we want more Widebodies to, we want more Pacific WB flying because it's 4 man as if the rest of WB flying doesn't count. Eerily similar to how the 765 all of a sudden wasnt a "real WB" when new hires started being assigned the plane. Pilots are a fickle bunch. [emoji23]
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