Just remember that the overages that AFPC lists on their website can change as authorized manning levels change. If the AF can't get approval to keep their overage for 09 they will be forced to readjust these numbers to get the extra 10-12k out. I know for 07 certain groups were -50 or greater that then became 0's or +10's for 08. Obviously we'll know more as it gets closer to 09...