Originally Posted by
BeatNavy
Wait a second. Do you not remember last round of negotiations for F9/NK? Didn’t frontier and spirit both get new CBAs after UAL/AAL/DAL last round? Frontier pilots basically just got spirit wages. And Spirit went below everyone else who had negotiated before them while in an increasing wage, pilot’s market landscape. But for some reason you think you would start with Big 3 rates as your baseline this time around in section 6? Good luck with that.
and to be clear I’m not saying you shouldn’t try to one up legacies…i am just trying to put some recent negotiating context into your post, which makes it seem like you think UAL+$1 is achievable for a ULCC and that your NC has that in the bag. That’s the point to which I’d say Ted/Biffle/Franke/whatever other puppet masters there are, won’t have any of that.
Can’t speak for NK but the f9 top captain rate of $240 an hr was pretty close to UAL top rate at the time of the initial proposal. 3ish years before ratification. Your not asking for UAL plus 20% at that point in time even though you realize their more than likely going to raise it. You have to do a me too if anything. Now we did bump the ask to basically jb rates a month or two after your TA. The problem for us at that point was the company came back and agreed to the $240 with a substantial bonus for the delay and there was zero chance of getting released. Your narrative is lacking a ton of context and timeline.
Last edited by fcoolaiddrinker; 05-18-2022 at 01:33 PM.