Originally Posted by
rickair7777
Around the same time-frame I'm on a mesa jumpseat, the LCA was doing new-hire IOE. From the east to BFL or maybe FAT, so rapid descent into the valley after clearing the Sierras. We do the lav shuffle, and the CA tells me (while the trainee is out) that she has issues with descent planning. On this leg, he's not going to say anything and just let her manage it all on her own. We get PD for the descent... and arrive over the marker at FL230
FL230 at the outer marker ? I find that hard to believe
Atc would have initiated your descent well before then ,even if the PD descent out of cruise was not sufficient.