I've only been around since 2014, but it seems that the rejection of TA1 was a pretty significant shift in pilot/management relationships and mood. The consensus is that under the guise of "getting a deal done early" in 2015, the company was trying to rush through an inferior product. It was as if the company was "trying to pull a fast one" on us. We're still talking about it and many pilots have long memories.

I believe this was one of the biggest destructors of trust between this group and the company and was the beginning of the antagonistic back and forth we see today. I have many, many friends being hired in this cycle and I have to proactively apologize for the garbage they will experience and explain how just 6-7 years ago it was a much different mood around these parts. They are coming into a company with a vastly different level of morale than those of us did in 2014-2015.

UAL is firing on all cyclinders right now the way we were around 2014(at least from my vantage point. Could be different if you are there but from the outside it seems like they are coming out of COVID looking really good.)

A large significant part of this long term fraying is the shoot down of TA1.

It would be in the company and unions best interest not to send anything to the group that won't pass wholeheartedly.