Frontier upgrades have come to a crawl as well. Very junior pilot group, very, very few retirements in the next 10 years as a percentage of total pilot group. The only way you move up is growth, massive growth. While F9 will tell you they are growing massively with aircraft deliveries, they still need to get and retain the pilots. They are losing pilots at about the same rate they are hiring them. AA, 15K pilot group. nearly half will retire in the next 7 years. 2K new hires this year, 2K next. People like to talk about the ****ty contract, and that is a fact but the movement at AA can't be argued with. Guys hired this year by the time they hit the line already had 3-400 below them. This year, by the time the early retirements flush out there will be approximately 1000-1100 gone from the top. One guy I know is already 60% in base and hasn't hit the line yet at AA. Not saying where you should go, but this is some info to consider. Interview everywhere, remember you don't have a decision to make until you have a job offer. Even then, if a prettier girl asks you out you can always jump in her bed later.