You are right. Everything you say is correct. You're insight is wise and enlightening. We are all just lucky to work here. How dare we complain? I mean....management can complain about what we are doing wrong...F/A's can complain about everything, but God forbid we (especially us ungrateful F/O's) voice our concerns. Just because you're a captain doesn't give you more insight into this industry. It just means you were furloughed earlier. Or, are you one of the TOYS ? If we are complaining about it now and nothing changes, the FO's in the future will be complaining about it later. What bothers me is you refuse to hold dialogue on a solution. I bet you're a summer leather jacket guy aren't you. Yeah, thats it... a summer leather jacket guy who volunteers to do free work in the office and fly durring IROPS for free. As long as your OK everyone should pipe down.