Originally Posted by
echelon
But Alaska MECs HAVE sold TA's to the pilot group via road show. They HAVE used the BS "time value of money" line to sell a weak TA. The best way to fix this contract IS to start from scratch. Why is it insulting to hear the truth, just because it comes from someone who doesn't work here?
When Alaska bought VX they bought 800 pilots, all outsiders at the time, who for the most part were astonished not only to see how trash the contract was, but that Alaska pilots were proud of it! Frankly, this group of all pilot groups could probably benefit from paying more attention to outsiders' perspectives.
Im well aware of what PREVIOUS MEC’s have done. Is that what we do now? Going forward? Just set expectations, judge all future MEC’s and NC’s by the ones that came before them?
I understand the cynicism, but in all things you have to make judgment calls and evaluations based on current circumstances and individuals. You can’t just go through life relating to other people like “Ive known a lot of *********s in life. Are you an *********? You’re probably an *********. I’m just gonna have to treat you like the ********* you most likely are.”
IMO the problem with previous roadshows/contracts that were SOLD in the past, was that Alaska pilots had leadership that was FAR to chummy with management…. I’d even say by the time it got to road shows, the MEC had been infiltrated.
The rest is subjective opinion. We have, by your own definition, (VXrs, newer hires, etc) who both CURRENTLY occupy leadership here, ARE negotiating, but, also have a vested interest beyond being in management in 6 months.
If you’re gonna equate some rando poster on APC named Gearboy’s opinion a “legitimate outsiders perspective” vs our current leadership and pilot group, I don’t know what to say. I’ll ask the van driver his perspective later this morning and post it. It’s an outsiders perspective as well.