Originally Posted by
MinRest
Let's add in a bunch of former ALPA negotiators, presidents, MEC chairs, LEC reps etc etc. that actually know much more about how collective bargaining actually works and have experience in pickets, strikes and decades of actual personal work hours into CBAs, JCBAs, SLIs and so much more. Imagine the ignorance of completely discounting all that experience because you came from Horizon to Alaska, and have never lifted a finger to do anything to further your station other than coming on APC and saying you voted no on every contract lol. It is always fascinating to me how everyone is a no vote, yet these CBAs at AS pass by large margins and they actively add in language that took their power away. The small group of people like Joe are the real problem. His attitude caused early tensions between the two pilot groups. Luckily now, as a whole the two merged pilot groups are one, they are aligned in their interested and the efforts show. Once again, poor EskimoJoke is simply upset and bitter that he wasn't part of the solution, so he comes on APC and screams about theories and problems that simply don't exist.
Yep, and don't forget, because of all that union experience and know how, the Virgin guys tried to organize their own in-house union, VALPA, which failed the first time around on a technicality. The second time around via ALPA worked, however.
I don't think any start-up has ever had a union on property from day one, but at VX, as soon as was possible, an effort was made to organize.