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Old 06-19-2022 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mytime2025
Probably the dumbest thing ALPA has done. UAL wants to expand and grow along with other airlines and ALPA is putting up a roadblock to mainly international expansion. Good thing these geniuses are not managing the airlines. But I digress irregardless of ALPA passing a worthless resolution the FAA / ICAO and Congess will increase the age because the traveling public will demand it. It's the only option that will fix the current mess overnight
There's no shortage of dudes willing to fly 787/777s for UA. The only roadblock is UAL's (and other airline's) training pipelines. Age 65->Age 67 won't really fix that.

Originally Posted by Mytime2025
Only way to allow the growth plan to be realized and shore up the pilot pipe line. The airlines are leaving massive amounts of revenue sitting at the gates trying to get to their destination. ALPA lead or get out of the way. It's not like those senior WB Captains won't continue to pay dues. More pilots = more dues. But then again pilots are weak at basic math ( 63K 401K vs 130K lifetime pension what has more value ? ). This is my point. ALPA can scream.all they want but the vast majority of pilots want the retirement age lifted to meet demand.
those senior WB captains will be restricted to domestic only. How many of them will want to go back to DEN-ORD-IAH-LAX-EWR-SFO-IAD and nowhere else? ICAO isn't going to just change their rules because Congress/FAA change ours.

Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
Formal standards for standardized "ab initio" pilot training programs, anyone?

Works for the military. Works for Lufthansa.

Airlines don't want to do it here, because they haven't had to, but also because they're at risk of the feds changing the rules/standards mid stream.
ab initio is a massive threat to collective bargaining here in the US, and ALPA is way behind the ball on making sure that the company doesn't gain additional leverage over the pilots going through those schools.

Also ab initio pilots typically have less internal motivation/drive to become pilots... you'll get a lot more dudes and dudettes who aren't really passionate enough about flying to get it done themselves.

Let's not try to solve management's problems for them.
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