Originally Posted by
captnate702
looks like what TT sent out was mostly true: 3x for some OT and 2x in premium pay (JA pay and OT on vacation is crumbs at best)...
I know AR and exco have their reasons for this, but it is rough when somebody who doesn't fly but takes a line anyway and has only seen pay raises during the pandemic tell me that i am not allowed to make double and triple. when there are no concessions being asked for (which from what i've seen on fb there weren't), then let the pilot group decide whether they want to make some extra $$$ during the worst inflation in 40 years.
Or... make sure a new contract and pay raise is around the corner. don't tell me that i can't make extra money now AND that i will have to wait 3-4 more years for a raise.
and all you AR worshippers, don't tell me that this will motivate the company to get a deal done sooner. we are no where close to a new contract. the union has not put forth one economic proposal (and don't plan to until the United numbers are made public). we are years away from a contract so please let me make some extra money in the meantime to take the sting away.
No way man. When you're in negotiations you don't help the company out. This would have been a band aid to get them through the summer then they would go right back to non-negotiations. Taking this deal would have drug the contract out even further. This was meant to exploit pilot greed particularly among the senior. Slow clap for AR to say no. Someone has to tamp down greed and think about the group as a whole. No Waivers No Favors.
Originally Posted by
tailendcharlie
Years away from a contract anyway ‘cause MG isn’t gonna pony up for the rates or the work rules without going all the way down the road to self-help. Agreeing to this proposal conditions the company to think throwing money at us without fixing all the underlying issues will get them through peak months & they can relax a little…..and next they offer to bump 1st pay & of course if the union took the bait for more senior pilots how can they deny helping poor new hires…..the timeline for that T/A just moved even farther out….
Originally Posted by
FreshWater
5% to 10% of the seniority list and management would have been the beneficiaries. No deal..
Exactly. EXCO did the right thing and Tracy's pi$$ed off email is the proof. They aren't doing this because they want to help us, they're going it because they are screwed due to their own mismanagement and this is their only way out of the summer meltdown. We've got them by the balls. Now it's time to twist until they cry uncle.