NWA320pilot, You have said it all very well. In the end I still think its best we stay apart. I have been through two mergers. I am not ready at this stage to go through another. I am a bit confused about one thing. You mentioned you would only be getting a 8 to 10 percent raise. What is that based on? The rate on the 737-800/A320 in 36 months was going to be right at 190 per hour. The rate at signing was going to be 166 per hour. I addition the B fund would go to 14%. The current rate is 137 an hour unless I have it wrong. Those are raises way beyond 8 to 10 percent. The initial raise would be 20% and after 3 years the raise would be in excess of 35% not counting the increase in the DB plan which is also cash. Even Delta pilots would see a 7& improvement at signing and a 22 percent improvement with compounding after 3 years.