BS! It’s because they ARE an actual union. We are an ops group association. No UPS pilot who wears an IPA pin sits across from a Chief Pilot, Flt Ops Manager and while being counsiled has to stare at an IPA pin or union member on the opposite side of the ****ing table! That’s the difference right there. At UPS the DZ types here would be out of the union and off the seniority list. You are either IPA or you are management. ALPA is not a pilots union. They are a huge pilot members association with line pilots and offline managers who are willing to hand out discipline to fellow association members in their membership. Which should be an article 8 issue but ALPO loves that dues money!!

Any 1-3 year pilot at UAL not applying to FedEx and UPS clearly does not know contracts and history nor retirement credits.

UPS should be doing pilot interviews at the Doubletree in DEN and catching new hire UAL guys/gals knowing they are very hirable and all backgrounds are solid. Recruit a few solid 756 types with some good amount of systems and simulator knowledge ready to show up in SDF way ahead of the game.