Originally Posted by
EWRflyr
So you are saying they didn’t get the best deal they could as the ones sitting across the table? You know that the Negotiators could have gotten more?
I love that many pilots think that every thing in a contract is a separate item to be negotiated with no mixing of other stuff. Believe me I’d love it if that was the case. But a gain in one area means you don’t always get as much in another area. The totality of the contract is not negotiated in vacuum.
I haven’t decided my vote because I haven’t looked at any of the documents yet other than the initial TA announcement email from last Friday. I wanted to watch all the Town Hall information videos then read the full document based on hearing from the negotiators. Then I could read and make an informed and hopefully non-emotional decision.
They absolutely could have gotten more. APA just got a $2 Billion offer from AA the very next week, which isn’t event that good yet eclipses the UA TA due to the number of concessions the NC agreed to to get the measly deal they got.
Thie UPA TA is concessionary and hurts pattern bargaining. It’s so far from industry leading that the legacy with the worst pilot contract and management group got a better offer less than a week later and the MEC immediately stops supporting the TA town halls and Q&A. That in itself is incredible and telling that this TA needs to be voted no on so the company can be re-engaged and get a better offer.
Voting hasn’t even closed and the value of the TA has been surpassed by hundreds of millions of dollars. Anything other than a no vote sets UAL pilots up for a substandard contract for the next decade.