Originally Posted by EWRflyr

I don’t care how people decide to vote on the TA. Contract decisions are deeply personal for many people. I don’t discuss my vote with anyone and have yet to fully read everything or be fully educated now that the educational component has been pulled down. I’m undecided at this moment in time.

But what I don’t like seeing is the anger, vitriol and some of the emotional rants going on. I’m a pilot and was trained to be analytical and make decisions based on facts not emotion. The way I see it is we are in this situation because certain people cannot play by the rules: the MEC votes first. Then the TA gets sent out for member ratification, pro and con statements get published, educational videos/road shows/town halls/Q&A happen then people vote with the facts in hand.

You all complain about a sales job. All I see on here is one big sales job to vote NO. And what that means is people are scared and trying to put their thumb on the scale of the outcome. Debate is certainly one thing and expected. However, why do you think Wendy and the C12 reps were so quick to issue these negative talking points ahead of the MEC getting the message out with documents for everyone to read? They need to feel relevant or they lose perceived power. All this says to me is they don’t trust pilots to decide what is best for them. And I don’t trust a rep who won’t let me have the information first and trust me to make my own decision. You want to see a sales job? This is it and many on here have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Actions like this are desperation for an old, failed political way of running ALPA.

As I said, I’m undecided but we at least reached a TA…finally. Then miraculously AA sends a revised proposal to the APA days after ours comes out? From my friends at AA, they say it sounds like it matches ours. Our TA got AMR to finally move apparently according to their own CEO. Now where is DAL? They’ve been negotiating longer than we have and have nothing to show for it except possibly some international scope agreement. Otherwise, all I see is them out picketing and holding signs while the other Delta employees get raises. Not exactly getting results over at DAL are they?

I don't care how people vote on this TA. I will make my own decision in the privacy of my own home after reading the provided documents, pulling out my personal list of desires then looking at how this agreement matches up with my personal wants and expectation. However, no one on here or in the flight deck or crew room will sway me either way. Just as I won't be sold to vote FOR the TA, I'm not going to be sold to vote AGAINST it either.

I guess I'll go start the popcorn as I just know it's coming. BRB.