Originally Posted by echelon

You're not naive for liking your coworkers and having a life, you dunce, you're naive for repeating trite, pointless, nonsense like this while thinking you're actually saying something. Gary, Indiana COULD be a great place to live. I COULD solve the unified field theory. Alaska COULD be a great place to work where QOL and career satisfaction rivals every other major, but right now IT ISN'T!! By saying that "we're only a contract away from this being a great place," and, "this could be a good place to work if there were work rules," you're really just saying that this currently ISN'T a good place to work, and yet you seem intent on contradicting yourself by also claiming that that hypothetical potential to be a great place to work invalidates the complaints about working here now. This is a hiring thread and you're telling people to come here based on the totally uninformed HOPE that things will improve significantly in a hurry. And you're naive for basing that hope on the idea that "unity" and "resolve" and a single strike are meaningful in a tangible way, and for basically "yada yada-ing" the part where we have to actually climb the mountain, starting from almost the very bottom. A TA doesn't even exist so you can't know what's in it, and yet you're so convinced that this purely hypothetical contract is going to fundamentally change what it's like to work here that you're comfortable trying to convince other people of that. How about you wait and see what's actually in a TA before you conclude that it will be game changing?

I was told in 2017 on the hotel bus in LAX by an Alaska pilot that, "you guys are really going to like it here, we have a very strong, mature, contract." That guy obviously thought that the contract then was a "proper contract."