Originally Posted by
9easy
AR said a month ago that the lack of communication is because a lot of stuff is getting done. A month later the quarterly union meeting basically says nothing is getting done and the company isn't showing up to meetings. So which is it? The communication on both sides is horrible. It's one thing if the company stonewalls us... but you'd think with the extra assessment we're paying for negotiations, we could at least get some regularly scheduled communications like every other union (ahem ALPA union) is doing right now during their negotiations.
You probably should replay the update from a month ago. The exact quote was "when it's quiet, there is a lot going on." Then he talked about grievances, arbitrations, staffing, section 25 meetings and a declined MOU for most of the update. I'm not sure how you twisted that into contract negotiations having progress. Expect 4+ years regardless of what your hear or you think you heard. I've been calling that for a year now and it's proving to be very accurate.
The sad part is a lot of the same people on the fence about leaving that fell for the company's tactics to get you to stay and work the summer for half pay will probably fall for the same setup again early next year when the negotiation needle moves a little. Had those pilots just left a year ago they would be in the big D 11 month upgrade class making 400k (with DC and profit sharing) while negotiating a contract to make 500k. Instead some of these same pilots are heading for upgrade here in DSM/ATW/FNT to make 160k while attempting to commute home with single days off.