Originally Posted by
Noworkallplay
A few dollars more on a hourly pay rate isn’t an entire contract. In fact your hourly pay rate is a portion of your total w2 compensation. They will never come close on our retirement either. And we haven’t even begun talking about vacation and PBS and the inability to conflict. All of those things add to your W-2 but are not pay rates. I hope pilots are not so shortsided that all they do is stare at an hourly pay rate. That is exactly what management would want you to do while they gut the rest of your soft pay and work rules/retirement/bidding (pbs)/vacation
How about the company agreeing to pay us $500/hour for our max widebody pay rate but you have to give up your pension, vacation and implement PBS? Would you take it since hourly pay rates are so important to you?
Im all about looking at details. I understand a holistic contract concept. There are other parts of DALs contract that beat ours, ahem, profit sharing and cash over cap.
I’m again, playing devils advocate. Why be part of ALPA if we are just helping all the other carriers? Why not form a union for us and Brown?
Also, I’m not against getting a contract right now. I’m posing the question.