Originally Posted by Rum Runner

He means we need to have an AIP by August to be ratifiable by November, similar to last time, before peak. I agree we should've started "fighting" last November, but that didn't happen. My guess is if we don't see meaningful progress in Section 8 by August, then it's not looking good. The big ticket items close out relatively quickly, although with retirement such a big focus, I'm not sure that's the case this time.

Take a look at vacation buy backs in September. All of the seats had been there for quite some time...not anymore. The seats that remain....