Originally Posted by
groovinaviator
I never said Pinnacle... are they bottom of the barrel? Interesting.I have quite a few friends from college at TSA and although I don't agree with where they went to work I am by no means better than them. Some have a reason they need to be there, but let's face it most of us (not all) entry level pilots are young and single and could go wherever we wanted. Anyway, My point is that the less money someone is willing to work for the less money we will all make. My company formerly had bases in the midwest, but now we do not and I get paid much less money than I would have because a second rate company that doesn't pay their pilots crap undercut us. I suppose those pay cuts which we had to take to stay afloat helped inch us along in the race to the bottom... Glad we are not winning that race.
How does going to a company like MESA, TSA, and apparently Pinnacle (among others I'm sure) help anyone but yourself. I suppose that in the end everyone is only looking out for #1 anyway.
Same old story... That is part of (dis)honest future.
This has been argued so many times before. There is nothing new from either side to be said.
Didn't mean to sound arrogant... I by no means think i am better than anyone else. I however do think I did my part (through research) to get a job that wasn't screwing over other entry level pilots... although it could be argued I am screwing the guys at the majors... the argument could go on forever.
And no... I don't plan on being at AWAC forever, but i do no if there is another down turn in hiring I will have made the right decision. By the way... don't get caught up on upgrade times. They can (and do) change overnight.
Many would argue that you, by not going through the military, took a job that was screwing over way more pilots than the 2000 pilots that have gone to these bottom of the barrel airlines have.
Get off your high horse and realize that most of the guys at majors laugh at most of the bickering that goes on at the regional level. It's a REGIONAL. ALL of your work rules suck, regardless of whether you have a duty rig or not. Somebody took a job, and that's brining down the industry? Give me a break. Entry level aviation jobs have been crappy for almost the entire tenure of the industry, it's just that there aren't 100 different little carriers that fly around Metroliners and J31s anymore, there are 25 that fly slightly larger aircraft. If I may, I'd like to offer you a tip: the fact that there's so much in fighting at the regional level is half of the problem in aviation right now. Who cares that you as an FO are getting $30k as opposed to $20k? You're still accepting a job that works you almost as hard as a real job for what essentially works out to be around $10-$15 an hour (if you spread it out over the hours that you actually work. I can't remember who said it, but the majors are the goal here, people. The quote was "if he gets to the majors before you, he wins, you lose. Period."