Originally Posted by Daniel Larusso

Let's be realistic here JJ. Of course the other airlines have guys who reached 60 and have stayed on. What they don't have though is an additional bunch of people who were 60+ on Dec. 12 coming back to the front seats canceling bid awards(FX) and bumping people back to the panel (UPS so far) and slowing progression during a downturn. Iow this is gonna be longer than the 3-5 year blip all of the optimists like to talk about, and it seems wildly unrealistic to think that people are just going forget about it and get over it like it was just a bad night Tunica. That said, I expect to hear similar 'commentary quite often ahead of our next contract negotiations from the senior portion of the list since it seems that retirement issues will again be at the forefront of things-what did someone say something about the optimizer and FDA's? I couldn't hear you!!