Originally Posted by PorkyMcFuzz

Yep. But as it has been said, it's a genius move by management. The bonus scheme is gone and the money they likely projected to spend on captain payouts over the next 24-48 months and beyond is just rolled into the new TA so it gives the illusion of a great deal when in fact as it has been in the past, they are just moving the same money around to make the pilots think they are doing better than they really are. A pay rise is coming but keep in mind when you vote, you are also losing money already now...and that is before its even published.

I can not wait to watch and see how SAPA sells this.