Originally Posted by ShyGuy

So after they stall for 3 yrs, now APC wants the pilots to stall negotiations to see what the big 3 get. Because the union hasn’t foreseen a circumstance where the big 3 get a contract later and to have some sort of review in the future? Some real winners in this thread.


Hows that attrition shaping up? “The worst we’ve ever seen.” What they also neglect to mention is that the other non big 4 pax carriers are in the exact same position from an attrition perspective. JetBlue, Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, and even Hawaiian. People are leaving in droves. Delta’s most junior CA on a narrowbody is a Dec 2021 hire. Delta’s most junior 757/767 Captain is LAX with a DOH of March 2020! A pandemic start hire holding widebody CA barely 2.5 yrs in (more then half spent home during pandemic). No amount of $$$$$ contract at Alaska is gonna stop people from leaving.

Here’s a honest prediction. Some of the most vocal people here are senior enough not to. Leave. We’re not going anywhere. They know it, we know it. People will complain and moan about the TA, even if a good TA passes, they’ll complain because this place is still Alaska. And we’ll still have attrition from the bottom 1500 of the list to the big 3 pax and big 2 cargo after a TA passes.