Originally Posted by
SproutsDad
Yes, but us regional guys (and I am one myself) have not done our part to bring up the low end. My personal opinion is that this entire airline industry is only going to get worse until we all unify together. How we get that done...good question.
actually become one union with either 1 contract for all or each contract has a minimum year end cost (pay+contract items=$$$) for size of aircraft so we can't undercut each other. that would force management to run the company instead of coming to us for help.
this will never happen though. look at what has happened since deregulation and in particular the last few years. continued falling pay and quality of life. regionals getting whipsawed and ALPA does absolutly nothing. look at the last few years. huge paycuts, lost pensions, contracts gutted and it's the status quo at ALPA and everywhere else.
in the past pilots always tried to raise the bar. todays pilots don't try and do that. they are called low cost airlines and the new catch phrase ultra low cost airlines. the difference between them primarily is the pay to the employees.
you might get one airline to raise the bar but 2 will stay below and look attractive for a quick upgrade. it's been 1 step forward followed by 2 steps back.
pilots don't care about other pilots and they never look at what's behind them. they only look for what's a head of them. this is how the scope has fallen. they don't care about the 50 seaters because they won't fly them and now it's 70 seaters. if they were asked to give up 747/777 they would fight tooth and nail to protect them because they might fly them someday.
like you said it will probably only get worse, to quote metallica "sad but true"