Originally Posted by
KC135
You should watch the video again, you have completely twisted a lot he said. Why would you not save compensation for last since the industry is rapidly changing??? Rates also depend on the work rules that should be TA’d first. That’s negotiation 101, not slow rolling! He never said they are waiting for other airlines, what was said is if we have a TA first it must be industry leading as apposed to industry average, along with a me too clause so we aren't on the bottom again. That is VERY far from the conclusions you just made up.
As far as dues, we have more grievances than all other major airlines combined, which isn’t cheap. Still a great overall win rate even with recent loses. Our union is able to receive more of our dues with the new local, think union gross pay = net pay. The company tactics to drain the union’s finances are far from over. The assessment will end when we TA a contract in about 3-4 years. We don’t want to run out of money before then. I would rather overpay and have a surplus which at that point we could possibly never have to pay ANY dues ever again if the union is able to run from interest off the surplus pot.
of course... THE GRIEVANCES. i thought the union put in that software so that hundreds of grievances a month by just a couple clicks? But wait, THE GRIEVANCES. click click click... file file file because more GRIEVANCES is what we need.
KC - "thou doth protest too much..." The fact of the matter is that the negotiations cannot get serious until compensation is on the table. Andrew said he is not putting comp on the table because "it is a moving target..." So when does the target stop moving? Union reps have been saying since January when management put out there "big" offer that the Union would not put compensation on paper until one of the legacies TA'd their comp because they will not allow us to be leapfrogged again.
I don't think we are saying different things KC135, we have both been on here for a while saying negotiations will last until at least 2025-2026. We both agree that negotiations will take a while, you put the blame solely on management dragging their feet. Meanwhile AR confirmed on his video exactly what union reps have been telling me since management made their "big" offer in January: that the union was going to wait for legacy rates to become public before they would even discuss compensation with the company (remember: previous videos AR said that they wouldn't discuss compensation until sections 18 and 19 were TA'd).
its okay to talk about risk/reward with the Union's strategy. this is not the fb forum where people get shouted down and called scabs just because we don't always drink the union kool aid.