Lie 1:
Originally Posted by
Margaritaville
Probably because he's a paranoid control freak and refuses to delegate anything except to the two or three people on the EXCO that he trusts. If he delegated he wouldn't be so busy. But he also wouldn't be able to cry to the pilot group how he works 24/7 so he needs $350,000+ a year.
Fact: Andrew delegates a large amount of work to over 50 union stewards and volunteers. Andrew has to take on a bulk of the work because the company will not approve more than 3-5 people taking FPL per month. They do this to purposely hamstring our union. Andrew can’t just magically hand out FPL, it has to be approved by g4 management if it isn’t for the top 3 union officials
Lie 2:
Originally Posted by
Margaritaville
Except at Delta or United, that guy is managing a team of hundreds of staff, lawyers, and volunteers (and they pay less dues for all that). Our EXCO is literally Andrew and a few of his trusted buddies who have no accountability to the pilot group especially after he got his new bylaws and got rid of elected stewards.
Fact: our E Board (yes it’s called an E board now) is made up of a diverse group of pilots with varying seniority, political views, and opinions. Out side of the e board we have 5-10% of the pilot group volunteering to help 2118 (because the company won’t approve FPL). but go ahead and keep crapping on Andrew and 2118 for problems Maury and the Csuite are creating.
Lie 3:
Originally Posted by
Margaritaville
Exactly! Andrew runs it like a kingdom not a corporation. Everything has to be personally approved by him. He delegates nothing and trusts no one then whines how he works 25 days a month. Plus the sleazy Vegas lawyer who is fleecing us since he can't even seem to win an arbitration, much less negotiate an RLA contract. We've got the money to hire a nationally known aviation law firm, yet we stick with Andrew's buddy who has no RLA/NMB negotiating experience except with us, because Andrew can control that situation.
Fact: we stick with Urban because he has won far more grievances, and lawsuits (you know that while federal court debacle maury likes to use after we win arbitrations) than he has lost. Also with the company being incorporated in NV there are specific NV rules and regulations that he is familiar with. We also use a small amount of our money to pay for industry lobbyists and information. Also mike urban is not the only representation we have at the table for negotiations we also have SH from teamsters national (has negotiated multiple contracts under the RLA).
also you can’t have it both ways… do we have 10mill in the bank, or are we being fleeced by a two bit Vegas lawyer?
Marg, your half truths and lies are just harmful. I see you troll all the other forums here too, so you have 3 options from my pint of view.
1. if you want a new contract at G4: shut up, be patient, let the process work, and complain when the roadshows start. Or if you want to complain keep it to S. Sheldon, TT, or our labor relations team.
2. If you hate Andrew so much, and think this is such a crap place. Go fly for American, they seem to be your second favorite forum
3. wait 5 years and run against Andrew with your own slate…. Or retire, because with your attitude I doubt you have more than 5 years left in the pointy end of an aluminum tube.