Originally Posted by
310skying
Lie 1:
Fact: Andrew delegates a large amount of work to over 50 union stewards and volunteers. Andrew has to take on a bulk of the work because the company will not approve more than 3-5 people taking FPL per month. They do this to purposely hamstring our union. Andrew can’t just magically hand out FPL, it has to be approved by g4 management if it isn’t for the top 3 union officials
Lie 2:
Fact: our E Board (yes it’s called an E board now) is made up of a diverse group of pilots with varying seniority, political views, and opinions. Out side of the e board we have 5-10% of the pilot group volunteering to help 2118 (because the company won’t approve FPL). but go ahead and keep crapping on Andrew and 2118 for problems Maury and the Csuite are creating.
Lie 3:
Fact: we stick with Urban because he has won far more grievances, and lawsuits (you know that while federal court debacle maury likes to use after we win arbitrations) than he has lost. Also with the company being incorporated in NV there are specific NV rules and regulations that he is familiar with. We also use a small amount of our money to pay for industry lobbyists and information. Also mike urban is not the only representation we have at the table for negotiations we also have SH from teamsters national (has negotiated multiple contracts under the RLA).
also you can’t have it both ways… do we have 10mill in the bank, or are we being fleeced by a two bit Vegas lawyer?
Marg, your half truths and lies are just harmful. I see you troll all the other forums here too, so you have 3 options from my pint of view.
1. if you want a new contract at G4: shut up, be patient, let the process work, and complain when the roadshows start. Or if you want to complain keep it to S. Sheldon, TT, or our labor relations team.
2. If you hate Andrew so much, and think this is such a crap place. Go fly for American, they seem to be your second favorite forum
3. wait 5 years and run against Andrew with your own slate…. Or retire, because with your attitude I doubt you have more than 5 years left in the pointy end of an aluminum tube.
Wow, you sure told me lol. Feel better now?
Clearly you're a union insider so I wouldn't expect anything less from you. You have your spin and I have mine. The pilots can believe whoever they want here on this anonymous message board.
I don't hate Andrew. I'm sure he's a nice guy. But he needs to be held accountable. I know you guys don't like that, but tough.
Everyone also needs to be reminded of the shenanigans when we broke away from 1224 with
Gleason and Untersherer like Nate said. Andrew ****ed a lot of people off at airline division and it only took one change of leadership at the top to change the political landscape in their favor. I really hope the middle fingers he gave everyone don't come back to haunt us. Talk about bull in a china shop, but hey he got his freedom without oversight.
I won't call you a liar though like you did to me. That would be disrespectful hyperbole and a weak ad-hominem attack.
I guess this is the part where you think I'll just stick my tail between my legs and skulk off. Don't count on it.