Originally Posted by
310skying
Lie 1:
Fact: Andrew delegates a large amount of work to over 50 union stewards and volunteers. Andrew has to take on a bulk of the work because the company will not approve more than 3-5 people taking FPL per month. They do this to purposely hamstring our union. Andrew can’t just magically hand out FPL, it has to be approved by g4 management if it isn’t for the top 3 union officials
Lie 2:
Fact: our E Board (yes it’s called an E board now) is made up of a diverse group of pilots with varying seniority, political views, and opinions. Out side of the e board we have 5-10% of the pilot group volunteering to help 2118 (because the company won’t approve FPL). but go ahead and keep crapping on Andrew and 2118 for problems Maury and the Csuite are creating.
Lie 3:
Fact: we stick with Urban because he has won far more grievances, and lawsuits (you know that while federal court debacle maury likes to use after we win arbitrations) than he has lost. Also with the company being incorporated in NV there are specific NV rules and regulations that he is familiar with. We also use a small amount of our money to pay for industry lobbyists and information. Also mike urban is not the only representation we have at the table for negotiations we also have SH from teamsters national (has negotiated multiple contracts under the RLA).
also you can’t have it both ways… do we have 10mill in the bank, or are we being fleeced by a two bit Vegas lawyer?
Marg, your half truths and lies are just harmful. I see you troll all the other forums here too, so you have 3 options from my pint of view.
1. if you want a new contract at G4: shut up, be patient, let the process work, and complain when the roadshows start. Or if you want to complain keep it to S. Sheldon, TT, or our labor relations team.
2. If you hate Andrew so much, and think this is such a crap place. Go fly for American, they seem to be your second favorite forum
3. wait 5 years and run against Andrew with your own slate…. Or retire, because with your attitude I doubt you have more than 5 years left in the pointy end of an aluminum tube.
Section 24.B.1. Long term Union Business. Andrew could take long term UB and free up additional two additional people to be off anytime the union wants with flight pay loss. (Section 24.A.1). We can have 2 pilots off for short term UB anytime we want and 1 pilot off for long term UB. Company can’t say a word about it. These are facts, but facts are pesky little things. Read your contract.
However, if AR takes long term UB he can’t bid a line in PGD and bank 120-150 PCH a month in flight pay loss. Not saying that is why he hasn’t taken long term UB but I’m sure it’s something he’s at least thought about.
As for Urban winning those arbitrations, we’ve lost 6 in a row and several of them we were promised would be easy wins (like picking up SAP should pay above guarantee). I’m sure urban is a good attorney, but it is playing with straight fire that he has never negotiated an RLA contract yet. Think about this: he’s never even dealt with the NMB. Maybe he’s crazy talented. But we’ve got the money, we should be paying for experienced RLA to negotiate this contract and get us through NMB mediation when that day comes.
Makes me nervous that AR has never negotiated before and he’s leaning on an inexperienced lawyer who looks like a slick Vegas personal injury attorney. We’ve got the resources, we should have real attorneys working this. We should have at least three people dedicated to the union at all times (that’s the max our contract allows and our company can’t say a word about it).
Think bigger y’all. We’ve got the resources and it’s obvious that there’s work that needs to be done. We are paying more than any other union in the industry, no reason we shouldn’t have better infrastructure, more full time union reps, and the best lawyers money can buy.