Originally Posted by
flyprdu
Here's a news flash, every decision is emotional.
Even something as mundane as choosing left vs. right around a thunderstorm has an emotional final call.
No it doesn't, not everything has to be an emotional decision. It's a factual call. Left vs right, the deciding factor will be the wind. I'd rather turn upwind than downwind to get around the storm. That decision is not based on emotion, but facts known about weather behavior.
I'd argue that your defending of modest gains in a surging market is even more emotional. It's an exercise of ego to stay committed to previous predictions when everything is surpassing it.
You are correct, if Alaska goes first, there won't be a measuring stick to gauge what a narrow body pilot is worth.
We will have to determine it for ourselves. What are you worth, Shy?
Again, this is an emotional response. You've seen Horizon get $215/hr and your emotional response to that is wanting 450/hr. That's not how this works. You're staying. Most people at Horizon are not. The only ones making 215/hr there will be their senior lifers who aren't leaving. No one entering Horizon is going to stick around to see 18th year pay. On that note, there's a reason Envoy checkairman are getting 400/hr with their override. Once they become checkairman, they aren't sticking around and leave for a legacy carrier. Envoy has no one then to check and train their pilots. So to keep them, they have to offer unheard of numbers because the goal is to get those checkairman to stay for X amount of time before they bail. Alaska doesn't need to do any of this. All they need to do is offer just enough to stem attrition lower than what it currently is. What pay rate would that entail? I'll let the experts figure that out.
I take emotion out of it, I've long said this whole ordeal is "just business, nothing personal." What am I worth? I'll let our ALPA experts in that field make that final call. They are trained in these things. Our Economic and Financial Analysis (EFA) team looks at the current economy, projected economy, current market rates, current company financial condition, projected financial condition, etc. They look at a host of factors and are able to guide our NC and come up with a rate for us. I trust them to do their job.
Originally Posted by
flyprdu
As an aside, everyone who is putting faith in a me too clause to save us is setting us up for disappointment.
We work for a company that has a history of exploiting loopholes and contract violations.
Everyone is taking a huge gamble that the snap up won't be covered in secret sauce.
This is FUD. You don't think our NC knows this, and will word it carefully so it is executed properly? I have faith in them (until proven otherwise) that they know what they are doing and know exactly what we want.