Originally Posted by
ShyGuy
No it doesn't, not everything has to be an emotional decision. It's a factual call. Left vs right, the deciding factor will be the wind. I'd rather turn upwind than downwind to get around the storm. That decision is not based on emotion, but facts known about weather behavior.
Actually, emotions play a big part in decision making. Neuroscientists have actually conducted studies on this subject. Your decisions are informed by facts and experience, but the final decision is an emotional one. I'm not surprised you're not informed on this subject.
https://bigthink.com/personal-growth...cision-making/
Originally Posted by
ShyGuy
Again, this is an emotional response. You've seen Horizon get $215/hr and your emotional response to that is wanting 450/hr. That's not how this works. You're staying. Most people at Horizon are not. The only ones making 215/hr there will be their senior lifers who aren't leaving. No one entering Horizon is going to stick around to see 18th year pay. On that note, there's a reason Envoy checkairman are getting 400/hr with their override. Once they become checkairman, they aren't sticking around and leave for a legacy carrier. Envoy has no one then to check and train their pilots. So to keep them, they have to offer unheard of numbers because the goal is to get those checkairman to stay for X amount of time before they bail. Alaska doesn't need to do any of this. All they need to do is offer just enough to stem attrition lower than what it currently is. What pay rate would that entail? I'll let the experts figure that out.
I take emotion out of it, I've long said this whole ordeal is "just business, nothing personal." What am I worth? I'll let our ALPA experts in that field make that final call. They are trained in these things. Our Economic and Financial Analysis (EFA) team looks at the current economy, projected economy, current market rates, current company financial condition, projected financial condition, etc. They look at a host of factors and are able to guide our NC and come up with a rate for us. I trust them to do their job.
I'm not denying my emotional response. What something is worth is a very nebulous subject. You can have data points, trends, studies, or research. But in the end, what it comes down to is what two parties agree to. And that could be anything based on a number of factors. Namely, how desperate or resolute the parties are. Your point is valid- the regionals are desperate. But so are the tier 2 majors. Things are changing rapidly. Hopefully the NC recognizes this.
You need to come to terms that you are equally emotional. Your motivations are that that you don't want to see any more delay. Rubber stamping the MEC TA is the quickest way is to achieve those (emotional) ends.
Originally Posted by
ShyGuy
This is FUD. You don't think our NC knows this, and will word it carefully so it is executed properly? I have faith in them (until proven otherwise) that they know what they are doing and know exactly what we want.
We're speaking hypothetically. Some people are trying to say it would be wiser to agree to something mediocre today, while filling the contract with IOUs to be fulfilled at a later date when the major contracts come online. This is foolhardy. We would be foregoing hard language that we could commit ourselves for uncertain language and very uncertain implementation later on.
We have one time to get this right for the next decade. Let's make sure we get it right the first time.