Originally Posted by
Jdub2
Here’s a thought. Russia is not our friend and we are in a zero sum game.
The cause of the war is immaterial to me. I feel bad for the all the Ukrainians and for some of the Russians pressed into service with no training equipment and support sent as literal cannon fodder.
At the end of the day, though, this is to our benefit. A weaker, discontent, and maligned Russia is to our benefit. I cannot understand fellow conservatives that do not understand that. Even if you’re dumb enough to put pooter on a pedestal, you should be happy he is failing
Edit to follow up, we were not involved in this. We just played a proxy war somewhat competently for once
I absolutely agree with this. I cannot for the life of me understand how Putin suddenly became “ok”. Russia unchecked was never going to stop at just Ukraine. You could counter with “you don’t know that.” And of course I’d agree with you, but would you take a chance? Unchecked aggression in Europe would destabilize the entire region, and cause a huge geo commercial meltdown.
I am not altruistic or attempting to portray anything remotely resembling a moral obligation (you could argue we do), but if you take that road then there are 69 other hotspots in the world that would require the same attention. But rather, the point is to emphasize that a beat down Russia now is much more favorable then a Russia 20 years from now, with 3 or 4 eastern bloc countries under their belt and conscripts in their ranks.
Furthermore I believe it sends a message to China that we could, maybe, possibly have the courage to actually defend Taiwan.
There’s alot more going on here then just corrupt Ukraine imho
Could you image the reactions of Reagan, bush, Eisenhower, Patton, Bradley, MacArthur, etc etc hearing that ANY Americans don’t have the guts to stand up to Russia because of gas prices or “corrupt” Ukraine? They would go bonkers
All countries led by an autocrat should NEVER be allowed to expand their borders. Period. We have a direct historical lesson of why this is a bad idea.
400,000 plus guys died to keep Europe out of the hands of these people. Beans and bullets are the least we can do