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Old 09-18-2022 | 05:31 AM
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MaxQ
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
Very thoughtful comments. I actually believe as you that if you follow trumps money trail (couldn’t get loans and suddenly poof) all roads lead to Russia. I also believe Ukraine is not as corrupt as fox would lead its following to believe.
I was trying to be diplomatic and not draw the right wing honey flies that parrot everything they hear on fox.

CNN is just as bad in their own way, but I find it so so fascinating that the right fell to a propaganda machine that glorified breaking the law and supporting Russia. It’s truly insane where we are atm.

Disclaimer: this seems like the appropriate place to talk about this as long as it’s civil. If not my bad
Hi Hub,
I don't have the time to make a reply with much reflection or length.
With those limits in mind:
1. I agree with the view that we need to support countries that are defending themselves from outright military invasion. The support need not involve American presence.
2. Putin's worldview is a Slavic updated form of Anschluss.
3. Putin's other strategic views involve the West and Liberal Democracy as mortal enemies to Russia's rightful place in the sun. They are enemy because they exist, not because of what they do.
4. Ukraine would fight with or without our support.
5. Long term goals of Putin are to weaken/destroy NATO, The European Union, and the USA/European Transatlantic ties. Much of Russian active measures are targeted at these goals. They include recruitment and use of agents of influence. Some/One of these assets have achieved positions where they/he actually have the power of direction. Far exceeding mere influence.
Ok...running late..gotta go.
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