Originally Posted by captnate702

150k less than other pilots until we get our next contract. Our next contract will be significantly more than Alaska's TA and right in line with United and Delta. We have been assured by our EXCO (individually and to the entire pilot group), that our next contract will be no less than industry standard and that standard is Delta and United. If you come here, you will take a paycut short-term, but in the long run you will be paid on par with the legacies and get to be in your own bed at night (after training and assuming you live in base). Work rules will also be on par with the legacies. And even if you don't want to live in base, union has said that the next contract will absolutely have commuter language for pilots looking to upgrade but don't want to uproot their family for a few years while they chase an upgrade across the system.

I don't know why there is so much negativity on these threads when every pilot on here knows that the Union has guaranteed us an industry leading contract - they won't even let us vote on a contract if it is less than industry leading. So again i ask the question: why would you go anywhere else when you can get the easy day trips and the pay/work rules that the legacies have???

The truth is, the negative pilots on here think that bashing the company is gonna give leverage to the Union in negotiations. If it was really as bad as they all say, they would have left already for a legacy. Shoot, if its as bad as they say, they'd be leaving in droves for Mesa given their new rates. So why do they stay, when they are likely years away from retirement (we have one of the youngest pilot groups in the industry)? Because they know how great the day trips are; they've already seen management is serious about improving the culture (we have fully replaced our training department and recently our scheduling department in the last 12 months). These pilots also know that we will get the industry leading contract we deserve and get to fly easy day trips and that there is no better airline to work for during a recession (the housing crisis was the gold rush for allegiant, huge revenue and pilot growth during that time).

If you trust the EXCO, as all the pilots on here do (minus Margi) then you all know that we will be the best airline for pay in addition to the best airline for QOL and the best airline for work rules. And negotiations have been picking up, Maury is still chasing AR and getting TAs done. Now that Alaska has TA'd their rates, I expect the union will be passing rates to management very soon. And yes, they will be higher than Alaska's.