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Old 09-30-2022 | 04:43 PM
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Bluedriver
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
So you repeatedly assert. Yet Alaska made gains for all, without screwing over their newbies.



Worth it or not worth it is not the issue. Necessary and effective is the issue, and so far no evidence whatsoever of either.

So how long must this not work before you’ll admit you are wrong?

Right now newbies are being used by management as cheap replacements for attrition. For all practical purposes, negating the leverage that attrition would otherwise give you. Threatening management with having to backfill people leaving with even cheaper replacements doesn’t seem like it’s the threat you claim it is.
I don't think he's saying to fix everyone's pay and leave 1st year crap...

But maybe you're saying fix 1st year and not give everyone else a raise? Otherwise I don't understand the argument.

Management needs to fix 1st year pay, the union says "yes, and also bring everyone else up to current market".

Not hard.

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