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Old 10-01-2022 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Lakeaffect
The leverage is attrition. We wouldn’t have nearly the attrition we do now if we raised first year pay, which is exactly why management only wants to raise 1st year. They aren’t thrilled about saving money on the rotation of cheap first year pilots.

Its been 1month of negotiations, not 4years. It’s gonna take a little time.
The leverage IS attrition, but what demographic is doing the attrition.

The attrition in the senior CA group is negligible. Management knows these guys aren’t going to go over to a legacy and restart at the bottom for 92 an hour on reserve. The attrition that counts is FOs and to a lesser extent junior CAs. And with legacies hiring, these people are leaving, but as long as management can replace them with cheap help, they don’t care. They have no real incentive to raise pay generally. Not when they can replace those leaving at $50 k a year.

They’ll be quite happy to never raise CA pay and backfill their FO losses with guys who work for $50k a year. It’s like a “B” scale. It allows current FO jobs to be replaced by more and more less experienced people. And those people will keep coming as the regional model cracks and breaks, because a type rating in a full sized airliner eventually gives them a step up the ladder to someplace else. And as long as management can replace them with another $50k guy, that’s fine with management.

And it’s been four plus years that Cinquo (and a few others) have been saying that screwing over the newbies was giving us leverage and nothing has changed yet.
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